Spanish Pundit (II)

abril 25, 2007

Musharraf wants to forbid the insult to Islam in order to prevent terrorism

Filed under: Islamismo,libertad de pensamiento,Paquistán,Spain,Zapatero — Nora @ 11:09 pm

[Translation below] 

Los Gobiernos de España y Pakistán suscribieron ayer una declaración conjunta en la que anuncian su intención de adoptar nuevos acuerdos bilaterales para luchar contra el terrorismo. La firma de esa declaración tuvo lugar en el Palacio de la Moncloa, tras una entrevista mantenida por el jefe del Ejecutivo, José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, con el presidente de la República Islámica de Pakistán, general Pervez Musharraf, que ayer comenzó una visita oficial a España.

Musharraf acudió a La Moncloa nada más llegar a Madrid y, por la noche, asistió a una cena ofrecida en su honor por Sus Majestades los Reyes, y a la que asistió también el Príncipe de Asturias. En esa cena, Don Juan Carlos subrayó, entre otras cosas, que España y Pakistán son dos países que comparten «el profundo dolor provocado por la brutal barbarie y total sinrazón del terrorismo», pero también tienen en común «el compromiso de hacer frente a dicha lacra, así como a otros desafíos globales, como la inmigración ilegal, el narcotráfico o la criminalidad organizada».

Musharraf, por su parte, recordó que su país ha tenido un papel esencial en la lucha contra el terrorismo y dijo que éste fenómeno sólo se podrá afrontar eficazmente si se entienden sus causas subyacentes. «A no ser -dijo- que pongamos fin a la ocupación extranjera y la represión de los pueblos musulmanes, el terrorismo y el extremismo continuarán incorporando partidarios entre los musulmanes enajenados en distintas partes del mundo».

Además, consideró «indispensable» que «se ponga fin a la discriminación racial y religiosa contra los musulmanes y que se prohíba que nadie calumnie a nuestra gran religión, que llama a la paz, la armonía y la hermandad».

En el comunicado conjunto suscrito en La Moncloa se afirma también que «España y Pakistán rechazaron la identificación del terrorismo con cualquier nación, cultura o religión y se comprometieron a estudiar iniciativas para el desarrollo y fortalecimiento del diálogo intercultural e interreligioso», valorando de forma «muy positiva» la Alianza de Civilizaciones promovida por España y la estrategia paquistaní «Moderación Ilustrada». Según una nota de la Secretaría de Estado de Comunicación, al abordar la cooperación antiterrorista con Pakistán, Zapatero la calificó de «excelente» y Musharraf expresó su opinión de que «la pobreza y la marginación están en el origen del terrorismo»

Source: ABC.es: nacional – nacional – Musharraf exige prohibir la calumnia al Islam para evitar el terrorismo

Translation:

The Spanish and Pakistani Governments subscribed yesterday a joint statement in which they announced their intention to adopt new bilateral aggreements to fight terrorism. It took place in the Moncloa Palace, after an interview between the Spanish President, Mr. Zapatero, and the President of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, General Pervez Musharraf, who begun yesterday an official visit to Spain.

Musharraf went first to La Moncloa just after arriving in Madrid, and at night, he attended a dinner offered in his honour by the King and Queen of Spain. The Crown Prince also attended the dinner.

In that dinner, Don Juan Carlos underlined, among other things, that Spain and Pakistan are “two countries who share the brutal barbarity of terrorism”, but which also have in common the “compromise to face it, as other global challenges as the illegal immigration, the drug traffic or the organised crime“.

Musharraf reminded that his country has had an essential role in the fight against terrorism and said that this phenomenon can only be fought efficiently if its causes are understood. “If we don’t put the foreign occupation and the repression of the Muslim people to an end, the terrorism and the extremism will continue to grow between the Muslims, alienated in different parts of the world“.

He also considered “indispensable” that “the racial and religious discrimination against Muslims is ended and that the insult to Islam is forbidden as Islam is a religion that calls for peace, harmony and brotherhood“.

In the joint statement it’s said that “Spain and Pakistan rejected any identification of terrorism with any nation, culture or religion and compromised themselves to study some ways to strenghen and development of the intercultural and inter-religious dialogue“, considering as “very positive” the Alliance of Civilizations promoted by Spain and the Pakistani strategy of “Enlighted Moderation”. According to an official statement of the State Secretary for Communication, Zapatero considered that the anti-terrorist cooperation with Pakistan is excelent and Musharraf said that “poverty and marginalization are the basis of terrorism“.

This said by Musharraf, who has allowed the destruction of a cemetery from blasphemes:

Pakistani police bulldozers have demolished the perimeter wall of a cemetery belonging to the “blasphemous” Armadiya community, despite the fact that it had been built according to laws regulating privately bought property.

More from Sugiero.

Lawyer Beating-thumbThis is the same man who expelled the Pakistani Chief Justice because he did not like what this man was investigating, decission which arouse hundreds of protests through the streets(see my post on the protest here). Metroblogging Islamabad has more about the protests, which turned out violent.

MSM are speaking about the talibanisation of Pakistan: regarding an affair which has shown that the Government wants to enforce Sharia law as it was asked by a radical Islamabad mosque. More from Jihad Watch.

talibanización de Paquistán

AABPARA MARKET, in an Islamabad neighbourhood of junior government employees, is known as the place where you can get everything at half the price of those in the city’s posh shopping squares, plus stuff you won’t find anywhere else. In its busy inner lanes are about a dozen or so shops selling DVDs, VCDs and music cassettes. Beginning February, the shops started getting unusual visitors who made it clear the very first time they were not out on a shopping trip.

“They came three or four times, some 10 or 15 of them at a time. Their faces were covered and they were holding sticks, and they said to me, `your business is against Islam. You are spreading vice. Why don’t you switch to some other business?'” remembered one shop owner, who didn’t want his name published.

The boys said they were from the mosque. The Lal Masjid runs two madrassas — the Jamia Fareedia for men and the Jamia Hafsa for women. The mosque and the madrassas are well known for their pro-Taliban sympathies and for the dissemination of militancy.

At first, none of the shopkeepers took the visits seriously. Then, one night in March, some 40 Jamia Hafsa girls, accompanied by an equal number of boys from the Lal Masjid, entered a home in the neighbourhood and dragged out the three women inside, accusing them of running a brothel. Tied up in white sheets, the women were dragged through the neighbourhood and into the Jamia Hafsa, where they were imprisoned for two days. They also took two policemen hostage, in retaliation for the arrests of two teachers suspected of involvement in the kidnap.

A few days later, on a Friday afternoon, the owner of a music shop in Aabpara heaped up his videos and DVDs and CDs on the road outside the mosque. After noon prayers at the Lal Masjid, under the eyes of the mosque administrators and madrassa students, Bilal, the shop owner, set fire to the heap. As the flames ate the movies, he told reporters that he had given up his business voluntarily. He realised it was anti-Islamic. He would start anew with something else.

Abdul Aziz Ghazi, the Lal Masjid prayer leader, announced that if the Government did not close down all brothels and shops in Islamabad selling movies and music within a month, the students would start taking action on their own. He threatened fidayeen suicide attacks if the Government tried to stop them.

(h/t The Moderate Voice).

More about Pakistan here.

El Mercado de AABPARA, un barrio de jóvenes empleados del Gobierno, es conocido porque en él se puede obtener a mitad del precio al que venden las tiendas pijas del centro. En sus calles bulliciosas se puede encontrar cualquier cosa que no se puede encontrar en ningún otro sitio, tales como DVDs, VCDs y casettes de música. Desde el principio de febrero, las tiendas empezaron a recibir visitantes inusuales que hicieron ver por primera vez que no iban a comprar.broomsticks

“Vinieron tres o cuatro veces, entre 10 y 15 cada vez. Sus caras estaban tapadas y llevaban palos y me dijeron: tu negocio es contrario al Islam. Estás expandiendo el vicio. ¿Por qué no cambias a otros negocios?“, recuerda el dueño de una tienda que no quiso que publicásemos su nombre.

Dijeron que eran de una mezquita. La Lal Masjid dirige 2 madrassas – la Jamia Fareedia para hombres y la Jamia Hafsa para mujeres. La mezquita y las madrassas son bien conocidas por sus simpatías pro-talibán y el proselitismo de sus doctrinas.

Al principio, ningún comerciante se tomó las visitas en serio. Pero una noche, en Marzo, alrededor de 40 chicas de Jamia Hafsa, acompañadas de un número igual de chicos de Lal Masjid, entraron en una casa del barrio y sacaron fuera a las tres mujeres que vivían allí, acusándolas de dirigir un burdel. Atadas con sábanas blancas las mujeres fueron conducidas por el barrio a la mezquita Jamia Hafsa, donde fueron retenidas durante 2 días. También secuestraron a dos policías, en venganza por los arrestos de los 2 profesores sospechosos de haber tenido que ver con el secuestro.

Unos días después, un viernes por la tarde, el dueño de una tienda de música puso todos sus vídeos, DVDs y CDs en la calle fuera de la mezquita. Después de los rezos de mediodía en Lal Masjid, bajo la mirada de los administradores de la mezquitay de los estudiantes de la madrassa, Bilal, el dueño de la tienda, los prendió fuego. Mientras que las películas eran devoradas por el fuego, dijo a los periodistas que había decidido dejar su negocio voluntariamente. Se había dado cuenta de que era anti-islámico. Empezaría uno nuevo con cualquier otra cosa.

Abdul Aziz Ghazi, el líder predicador de Lal Masjid, anunció que si el Gobierno no cerraba todos los burdeles y tiendas que venden en Islamabad películas y música en el plazo de 1 mes, los estudiantes pasarían a la acción. Amenazó con atentados suicidas de fedaiyines si el Gobierno trataba de detenerles. 

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Bill Roggio: The Talibanisation of the Northwest Frontier Province. It also underlines that the judicial crisis has hidden the reality of many Talibans living in Islamabad prepared for ousting Musharraf.

And consider the danger: Pakistan is already a nuclear power…

Read also The Belmont Club: The Musharraf Era.

But of course, the oppressors, marginalised, bla, bla, bla… are the Westerners. How about denouncing the oppression, marginalization… that Muslims are making to other Muslims for a change, Mr. Musharraf? Eeh, no, because the fedayines can come…

 

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And again the SGAE’s phantom appears

Filed under: libertad de pensamiento,PSOE,Spain,Zapatero — Nora @ 10:23 am

 I blogged some days ago about the possible introduction of an article, 17.bis, in the new Internet law -not yet enacted- by which SGAE (the General society of the authors and editors) could shut web pages if it considers they are illegal.

David Bravo explains it this way:

si una página web aloja obras intelectuales que pudieran vulnerar derechos de autor, la entidad de gestión o asociación representativa puede dirigirse al prestador de servicios que aloja esa página […] el prestador del servicio de alojamiento queda obligado a dirigir la misma a su cliente en los próximos tres días hábiles […] el cliente estará obligado a defenderse ante entidades como SGAE de la ilegalidad que le están atribuyendo en los próximos 6 días hábiles si no quiere ver cómo le bloquean el acceso a esos contenidos que la entidad o asociación señalan como ilícitos. El simple hecho de recibir esa comunicación de la entidad de gestión, aunque sea insostenible y ridícula, obliga a que te defiendas ante ella, el silencio faculta a la entidad de gestión para que inste el bloqueo al acceso del contenido presuntamente ilícito. […]

Source: La SGAE podría tener el poder de cerrar sitios web at blog.cualquiera.net

“If a web page is reproducing intelectual works which could go against author’s rights, the SGAE or any other similar association will be able to tell the server where the blog/page is located to inform that the blog’s author is breaking the law. The client will be obliged to defend him before the SGAE of the illegality in the next 6 days if he does not want to see his blog’s content down or closed. Even if the communication is absolutely ridiculous or unmaintainable, it obliges the normal blogger/website’s author to defend himself to regain access to the presumably illicit content”.

So a few weeks ago, there was a campaign against the insertion of this article. Although several people consider that they should be cautious about the Government’s movement not to include it, no one denied some kind of relief about the article’s supression.

But the relief has not been very long:

El Ministerio de Industria ha enviado a los miembros del Consejo Asesor de Telecomunicaciones un texto (PDF 90KB) casi idéntico al artículo que se eliminó de la reforma de la Ley de Internet, enviada la semana pasada al Congreso para su tramitación.

Source: Industria propone de nuevo que las entidades de gestión puedan cerrar sitios web | elmundo.es h/t Pixel y Dixel.

The Industry Minister has sent the members of the Consulting Council of Telecommunications a text very similar to the article supressed from the reform of the Internet law, sent the past week to Congress.

So according to this law, SGAE, which is NOT a judicial body, just an administrative one, is able to shut down/suspend a blog/web just because they consider that it can/might infringe the author’s rights.

And this is related to the words of SGAE’s lawyer, Pedro Farré, who considered that normal people should not be allowed to surf the web if they don’t have a sort of “driving licence”, and considered that the web should not be annonymus, as people on the web “are not responsible for what they do“.

What this man wants is that, no introduce the address of a webpage, you should first enter your own data (contained in the driving licence), and only afterwards the browser will take you there. In the meantime, everything that you do -or anything that you write in the Internet, will be monitorised.

This truly POLICE STATE has only one reason: money and power -as ever-. Authors -specially musical ones- are -supposedly- losing huge quantities of money because of the unregulated sales (i.e. sales in the street, with no payment to the author, no taxes…). So after the canon -they want any of the people who buy a computer, DVDs, CDs, MP3s reproducers… to pay a canon to the authors, just in case they use those devices to store protected material-, they want any of us to be outed in the Internet, in an administrative process, in which you can be punished (i.e. fined, for example) before going to court.

The communication can be totally wrong or even something entirely lacking of any sense, but if you want to prevent a definitive erasing of your files, you will have to show yourself. Thus your annonymus condition will end.

Para hacernos una idea de la monstruosidad que propone Farré, no haría falta más que extrapolarla a la vida fuera de internet: cada libro que uno compra, cada conversación, cada sitio al que acudimos… todo debidamente auditado y permitido previa muestra de nuestro documento de identidad, con registro de los hechos de manera que se nos puedan exigir responsabilidades. Un ojo que todo lo viera en cada momento y así impidiese cualquier hecho “no permitido” por el sistema. Una idea propia de pesadillas “orwellianas” o, también, de quien no ve más allá de sus ansias recaudatorias.

Source: La Sgae y el fin del anonimato en internet | Error500

As the web Error500 wrote, “you can consider what this means if you take the situation to the normal life, out of the Internet: each book that one buys, each conversation, each place where we go… everything conveniently controlled and allowed after you show your identity card, with a registry of all the facts so they can sue us. An eye that can see it all and could prevent the realization of any fact which is not allowed by the system. An idea which can be found on the “Orwellian” nightmares or just in the mind of people who do not see farther than their own tax collection“.

Of course, the “Culture” world has asked for the article 17bis to be reintroduced as they consider that the “producers of technological equipment and devices are working on exclusively economical terms and have huge benefits in other parts of the world”. They mix the canon with the blocking of copyright material. And they continue saying that they are making a huge effort to boost culture in modern Spain and Spanish cultural values.

The producers work on economical terms -they are firms-. But that has nothing to do with it: we are considering if it’s just to oblige the normal people to pay a canon for copying a song from a CD in the MP3, for example, what it has been named as “private copy“. And no, it is not: the canon considers every citizen a criminal which should be punished before he has even committed the crime and even if he does not do it in his entire life. And the “driving licence” makes possible to punish the content which is not agreeable to SGAE’s eyes, even if it’s not copyrighted and even if afterwards the web-writer has been declared innocent. Because as a lot of people points out every PC has an IP. And that is the way to discover who are really committing crimes over the Internet (pedophiles, terrorists,…).

 

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