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junio 6, 2008

USA: Polygamous Muslim tortured all his family

Filed under: EEUU,Islam,Islamism,Islamismo,poligamia,USA — Nora @ 9:46 pm

Right Truth: Three wives, 19 children, tortured by Muslim man in California

“For weeks, the three wives of Mansa Musa Muhummed and most of their 19 children have been telling a jury countless stories of torture and starvation that they kept to themselves for years. ‘It is the worst case we’ve ever heard of,’ prosecutor Julie Baldwin said last week.

The alleged atrocities went undetected by social service agencies, and police now have Muhummed, 55, facing up to seven life sentences if convicted of a raft of abuse charges. [snip]

He has pleaded not guilty to charges of torturing seven of the children, abusing 12 of them and falsely imprisoning two wives. The trial delays may have hurt his case because his children — once reluctant to talk to authorities — are now telling strangers of extreme deprivation, physical abuse and starvation.

Standing just 4-foot-6 and weighing about 98 pounds, Sharon Boddie, 27, told jurors last week that she had grown and gained weight since her father was arrested nine years ago and the children were sent to foster or group homes. But she still has scars from beatings and burns. She said she was taken out of school in second grade because she kept running away and teachers no longer wanted her there because she stole other children’s lunches. [snip]

Doctors said the children were extremely malnourished. A 19-year-old daughter was 4-foot-1 and weighed 56 pounds. After moving to rural Riverside County, they lived for about three years in a van at a Muslim campground, Sharon Boddie testified. The van had no running water or gas for cooking. Baldwin said Muhummed had no known occupation.

(…) The brothers and sisters have said they were denied use of a bathroom and could not bathe for weeks at a time or wash their clothes. Sometimes, Boddie took them in the yard and hosed them down”

Go over to Right Truth and read what Debbie has written and the comments. Absolutely alarming… and disagreeable.
I just have to say that this does not change or modify or alter in any respect my notion of polygamy (that is really bad). No. But I must add that when asked about the situation of his familia, the accused only answered: “I had the right to four wives”. Hmm, a very reasonable answer, isn’t it? About the tortures and privations, nothing… 

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Traduzco:
Durante semanas, las tres esposas de Mansa Musa Muhammed y la mayoría de sus 19 hijos han estado contando a un jurado historias sin término de tortura y hambruna en la que les ha mantenido durante años. “Es el peor caso del que tengo noticia”, ha dicho la fiscal Julie Baldwin la pasada semana.

Las presuntas atrocidades no fueron detectadas por las agencias de servicios sociales y la policía tiene ahora detenido a Mohammed, de 55 años, enfrentándose a siete cadenas perpetuas si se le condena por un conjunto de cargos de abuso.

No se ha confesado culpable de los cargos de torturar a siete de los niños, abusar de 12 de ellos y de meter en la cárcel con cargos falsos a dos de sus esposas. Las dilaciones en el juicio pueden haberle perjudicado porque sus hijos -antes muy reacios a hablar con las autoridades- están contando a los extraños todo sobre las privaciones extremas, abuso físico y hambruna.

Midiendo sólo 4,6 pies () y pesando 98 libras (), Sharon Boddie, de 27 años, contó a los jurados la pasada semana que ha crecido y ha engordado desde que su padre fue arrestado hace nueve años y sus hijos fueron mandados a casas de acogida. Pero tiene todavía las cicatrices de las palizas y de las quemaduras. Dijo que la sacaron del colegio en segundo grado porque lo único que hacía era escaparse y que los profesores no la querían allí porque robaba las comidas de otros niños.

Los doctores han declarado que los niños estaban extremadamente malnutridos. Una hija de 19 años sólo medía 4,1 pies y pesaba 56 libras. Después de moverla al campo en Riverside County, vivieron ahí durante tres años en una caravana en un campamento musulmán, según testificó Sharon Boddie. La caravana no tenía agua corriente o gas para cocinar. Baldwin también dijo que Muhammed no tenía ninguna ocupación conocida.
(…) Los hermanos y hermanas han dicho que se les negó el uso del baño y no podía bañarse durante semanas o lavar sus ropas. 
Aclaro: esto no es una consecuencia directa de la poligamia. Ahora bien, el hecho es que cuando se le preguntó por cómo vivía su familia, el acusado sólo respondió: “tengo derecho a cuatro mujeres”. De las privaciones a que había sometido a SUS esposas y a SUS hijos, no dijo nada….
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USA: Polygamous Muslim tortured all his family

Filed under: Derechos Humanos,EEUU,EEUU/USA,Islamism,Islamismo,poligamia,USA — Nora @ 8:36 pm

Right Truth: Three wives, 19 children, tortured by Muslim man in California:

“For weeks, the three wives of Mansa Musa Muhummed and most of their 19 children have been telling a jury countless stories of torture and starvation that they kept to themselves for years. ‘It is the worst case we’ve ever heard of,’ prosecutor Julie Baldwin said last week.The alleged atrocities went undetected by social service agencies, and police now have Muhummed, 55, facing up to seven life sentences if convicted of a raft of abuse charges. [snip]

He has pleaded not guilty to charges of torturing seven of the children, abusing 12 of them and falsely imprisoning two wives. The trial delays may have hurt his case because his children — once reluctant to talk to authorities — are now telling strangers of extreme deprivation, physical abuse and starvation.

Standing just 4-foot-6 (1,40 metros) and weighing about 98 pounds (44 kgs), Sharon Boddie, 27, told jurors last week that she had grown and gained weight since her father was arrested nine years ago and the children were sent to foster or group homes. But she still has scars from beatings and burns. She said she was taken out of school in second grade because she kept running away and teachers no longer wanted her there because she stole other children’s lunches. [snip]

Doctors said the children were extremely malnourished. A 19-year-old daughter was 4-foot-1 (1,24 metros) and weighed 56 pounds (25 kgs). After moving to rural Riverside County, they lived for about three years in a van at a Muslim campground, Sharon Boddie testified. The van had no running water or gas for cooking. Baldwin said Muhummed had no known occupation.

(…) The brothers and sisters have said they were denied use of a bathroom and could not bathe for weeks at a time or wash their clothes. Sometimes, Boddie took them in the yard and hosed them down”

Go over to Right Truth and read what Debbie has written and the comments. Absolutely alarming… and disagreeable.
I just have to say that this does not change or modify or alter in any respect my notion of polygamy (that is really bad). No. But I must add that when asked about the situation of his familia, the accused only answered: “I had the right to four wives”. Hmm, a very reasonable answer, isn’t it? About the tortures and privations, nothing…

*****

Traduzco:
Durante semanas, las tres esposas de Mansa Musa Muhammed y la mayoría de sus 19 hijos han estado contando a un jurado historias sin término de tortura y hambruna en la que les ha mantenido durante años. “Es el peor caso del que tengo noticia”, ha dicho la fiscal Julie Baldwin la pasada semana.

Las presuntas atrocidades no fueron detectadas por las agencias de servicios sociales y la policía tiene ahora detenido a Mohammed, de 55 años, enfrentándose a siete cadenas perpetuas si se le condena por un conjunto de cargos de abuso.

No se ha confesado culpable de los cargos de torturar a siete de los niños, abusar de 12 de ellos y de meter en la cárcel con cargos falsos a dos de sus esposas. Las dilaciones en el juicio pueden haberle perjudicado porque sus hijos -antes muy reacios a hablar con las autoridades- están contando a los extraños todo sobre las privaciones extremas, abuso físico y hambruna.

Midiendo sólo 4,6 pies () y pesando 98 libras (), Sharon Boddie, de 27 años, contó a los jurados la pasada semana que ha crecido y ha engordado desde que su padre fue arrestado hace nueve años y sus hijos fueron mandados a casas de acogida. Pero tiene todavía las cicatrices de las palizas y de las quemaduras. Dijo que la sacaron del colegio en segundo grado porque lo único que hacía era escaparse y que los profesores no la querían allí porque robaba las comidas de otros niños.

Los doctores han declarado que los niños estaban extremadamente malnutridos. Una hija de 19 años sólo medía 4,1 pies y pesaba 56 libras. Después de moverla al campo en Riverside County, vivieron ahí durante tres años en una caravana en un campamento musulmán, según testificó Sharon Boddie. La caravana no tenía agua corriente o gas para cocinar. Baldwin también dijo que Muhammed no tenía ninguna ocupación conocida.
(…) Los hermanos y hermanas han dicho que se les negó el uso del baño y no podía bañarse durante semanas o lavar sus ropas.
Aclaro: esto no es una consecuencia directa de la poligamia. Ahora bien, el hecho es que cuando se le preguntó por cómo vivía su familia, el acusado sólo respondió: “tengo derecho a cuatro mujeres”. De las privaciones a que había sometido a SUS esposas y a SUS hijos, no dijo nada….

Bestiality ‘OK if animal approves’

Filed under: EEUU,EEUU/USA,unbelievable news,USA — Nora @ 6:27 pm

View topic – Bestiality ‘OK if animal approves’ :: Free Dominion – Principled Conservative – Party and Canadian Politics – Canada Blogs:

“Frank Kameny, a hero to the homosexual community who was integral in pressuring the American Psychiatric Association to reclassify same-sex activities as ‘normal,’ has written to a pro-family organization that he believes bestiality is fine, ‘as long as the animal doesn’t mind.’ 

In a weekend letter to Americans for Truth, an organization dedicated to revealing the truth about homosexuality, Kameny also said there is no such thing as ‘sexual perversion.’

‘Absolutely indisputably a central part of the very definition of Americanism is the guarantee, found in the Declaration of Independence, as not merely a Right, but as an Inalienable Right, of the ‘Pursuit of Happiness,” he wrote. ‘If something which someone arbitrarily defines as a ‘sexual perversion’ provides happiness for consenting adult participants, then its enjoyment is enshrined in basic Americanism.

‘So: Let us have more and better enjoyment of more and better sexual perversions, by whatever definition, by more and more consenting adults. We will all be the better off thereby. And that will be Americanism in action,’ he said.”

So err, how do we know the animal has consented???
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Resumiendo: el activista homosexual Frank Kameny ha dicho que “el bestialismo (es decir, el mantener relaciones sexuales con animales) está bien si al animal no le importa”. Se basa según él, en que “en la Constitución de EEUU se encuentra con un Derecho inalienable de cada individuo, no sólo un principio, el Derecho a buscar la felicidad. Si algo que normalmente se considera como una “perversión sexual” se practica entre adultos que consienten, ese disfrute está protegido por la Constitución“.
Me parece perfecto lo que dice de los adultos que consienten… Ahora bien, ¿un animal es un “adulto que consiente”? ¿Cómo manifiesta un animal ese consentimiento de alguna forma que jurídicamente sea aceptable? Porque si no consiente, sería violación…
Paren el mundo que ahora ya sí que me bajo….

Bestiality ‘OK if animal approves’

Filed under: EEUU,unbelievable news — Nora @ 5:11 pm

View topic – Bestiality ‘OK if animal approves’ :: Free Dominion – Principled Conservative – Party and Canadian Politics – Canada Blogs

“Frank Kameny, a hero to the homosexual community who was integral in pressuring the American Psychiatric Association to reclassify same-sex activities as ‘normal,’ has written to a pro-family organization that he believes bestiality is fine, ‘as long as the animal doesn’t mind.’

In a weekend letter to Americans for Truth, an organization dedicated to revealing the truth about homosexuality, Kameny also said there is no such thing as ‘sexual perversion.’

‘Absolutely indisputably a central part of the very definition of Americanism is the guarantee, found in the Declaration of Independence, as not merely a Right, but as an Inalienable Right, of the ‘Pursuit of Happiness,” he wrote. ‘If something which someone arbitrarily defines as a ‘sexual perversion’ provides happiness for consenting adult participants, then its enjoyment is enshrined in basic Americanism.

‘So: Let us have more and better enjoyment of more and better sexual perversions, by whatever definition, by more and more consenting adults. We will all be the better off thereby. And that will be Americanism in action,’ he said.”

So err, how do we know the animal has consented???
****

Resumiendo: el activista homosexual Frank Kameny ha dicho que “el bestialismo (es decir, el mantener relaciones sexuales con animales) está bien si al animal no le importa”. Se basa según él, en que “en la Constitución de EEUU se encuentra con un Derecho inalienable de cada individuo, no sólo un principio, el Derecho a buscar la felicidad. Si algo que normalmente se considera como una “perversión sexual” se practica entre adultos que consienten, ese disfrute está protegido por la Constitución“.
Me parece perfecto lo que dice de los adultos que consienten… Ahora bien, ¿un animal es un “adulto que consiente”? ¿Cómo manifiesta un animal ese consentimiento de alguna forma que jurídicamente sea aceptable? Porque si no consiente, sería violación…
Paren el mundo que ahora ya sí que me bajo….

Being Christian is now a “hate crime”?

I wrote here some days ago about what I think and believe is the correct difference between secularization and “laicism”. Well, looks like there are some people that do not make that difference and consider that it’s OK to impose their morals on the citizens.
five feet of fury. (performing fallaci-o.):

“Additionally, a message posted to a popular Catholic internet forum has reportedly made its way before the British Columbia Human Rights Tribunal. The alleged poster, who is an American writing from America, was commenting on an article written by Mark Steyn — a Canadian author who now lives in New Hampshire. The tribunal accepted this posting as evidence that Steyn promoted “hatred”. While the website is never mentioned by name in� news reports — referred to only as “a� Catholic website” — a source at the tribunal told me, off-the-record, that the website was Catholic Answers. 

While the claim is unconfirmed as of this writing, the controversial Mark Steyn article, over which the British Columbia hearing is being held, was posted to the Catholic Answers message forum.� Moreoever, popular Jewish-Canadian blogger Ezra Levant, who is blogging live from the hearing, and who is the subject of his own human rights commission complaint, published a description of the unnamed� Catholic forum. Several details match, including the screen names of two participants to the Catholic Answers forum discussion of Steyn’s article.”

The message in particular was this:

Father defended the Church’s teaching on marriage during Canada’s same-sex ‘marriage’ debate, quoting extensively from the Bible, the Catechism of the Catholic Church, and Pope John Paul II’s encyclicals. Each of these documents contains official Catholic teaching. And like millions of other people throughout the world and the ages – many of who are non-Catholics and non-Christians — Father believes that marriage is an exclusive union between a man and a woman.

(…) Father de Valk publishes Catholic Insight, a Canadian magazine that “bases itself on the Church’s teaching and applies it to various circumstances in our time.” He is being accused by a homosexual activist of promoting “extreme hatred and contempt” against homosexuals.

Yet following the example of Popes John Paul II and Benedict XV, Father has stated on several occasions that we must love homosexuals and treat them with the dignity due every human person. “The basic view of the Church is that homosexual acts are a sin, but we love the sinner,” Father told me during an interview. “Opposing same-sex marriage is not the same as rejecting homosexuals as persons.” This is the deeply-held belief of orthodox Christians that is now considered a possible hate act warranting state intervention. This is what happens when government agencies broadly define homophobia as opposition to any homosexual act.

Father De Valk, the author of the post, did not make any remark asking homosexuals to be punished, yet the mere different thought/belief from the rest of the people, can constitute in itself a “hate crime”. Is this respect for other people’s beliefs? Is this freedom to belief? Looks like that not, but this is the ultimate goal of Canadian “anti-hate” legislation, according to this book.

But then someone who is continously telling slurs about Jews or declares publicly that “all Jews after they are 18, are legitimate targets because they are not innocent, don’t receive but some words like “don’t be so brute”, while people denouncing that are prosecuted for “Islamophobia”. Of course, those first ones are Muslims, not Christians.
Thanks to Blazing Cat Fur for the tip.

The evangelists say they were threatened with arrest for committing a “hate crime” and were told they risked being beaten up if they returned. The incident will fuel fears that “no-go areas” for Christians are emerging in British towns and cities, as the Rt Rev Michael Nazir-Ali, the Bishop of Rochester, claimed in The Sunday Telegraph this year.

So now there are voices claiming that perhaps they were threatened with arrest because they could possibly being telling Muslims “convert to Christianity or you would die in Hell. Hey, is that a “hate crime”? Don’t make me laugh!!! But the best is the title: “Where they Christian soldiers?” No, they were Christian jihadis, who were threatening Muslims with “Convert or we will kill you by committing suicide”. These journalists…. what do they take before writing this kind of articles?

This is not Algeria or Saudi Arabia. This is the West. Or not?
********
Exactamente igual que el juicio a Mark Steyn no tendrá mucha cobertura aquí, lo que le ha pasado con un foro católico en Canadá tampoco. La Comisión de Derechos Humanos canadiense no ha dicho qué foro es, simplemente que se trata de “un foro católico”. Pero todos los indicios apuntan a un post que dejó el Padre de Valk y que tampoco tendrá ninguna repercusión. A pesar de que no se tiene confirmación oficial, parece ser -y ha sido confirmado a algunos no oficialmente- que se refiere al foro “Catholic Answers” y en concreto al post del Padre de Valk. Este padre bávaro residente en Canadá, escribió en ese foro de internet “el matrimonio entre homosexuales, para mí, no es matrimonio, que defino sólo como el que tiene lugar entre hombre y mujer”, citando a Juan Pablo II y a Benedicto XVI. Ese comentario se refería a su vez a un artículo de Mark Steyn y los responsable de la Comisión quieren probar que de esa forma Steyn está promoviendo el odio, ahora hacia los homosexuales.
El Padre Valk publica “Catholic Insight”, una revista católica con comentarios sobre la actualidad. En una entrevista declaró, basándose en varias Encíclicas, que “la idea básica sobre la homosexualidad que tiene la Iglesia Católica es que “odiamos el pecado pero queremos al pecador”, de modo que rechazar el matrimonio homosexual no significa rechazar a los homosexuales como personas”.
Pues bien, un activista homosexual le ha acusado de promover “odio extremo y desprecio” por los homosexuales.
De modo que ser católico es un crimen de odio según esta interpretación.
Pero no sólo en Canadá. En Inglaterra, un par de predicadores evangélicos han denunciado a la Policía de las West Midlands, por amenazarles con arrestarles por un delito de odio por distribuir Biblias y propaganda cristiana en una zona musulmana. Ha ocurrido en Birmingham y algún que otro periodista ha dicho que si sólo estaban anunciando el Evangelio, vale, pero que si lo estaban anunciando “amenazando con que si no se convertían, iban a ir al Infierno”, entonces posiblemente sí hizo bien la policía, por portarse como “soldados cristianos”.
Esto no es Argelia ni Arabia Saudí. Esto es Occidente. ¿O no?

Being Christian is now a "hate crime"?

Filed under: Canadá,Gran Bretaña/GB,Great Britain/GB,UK — Nora @ 11:56 am

I wrote here some days ago about what I think and believe is the correct difference between secularization and “laicism”. Well, looks like there are some people that do not make that difference and consider that it’s OK to impose their morals on the citizens. 
five feet of fury. (performing fallaci-o.)

“Additionally, a message posted to a popular Catholic internet forum has reportedly made its way before the British Columbia Human Rights Tribunal. The alleged poster, who is an American writing from America, was commenting on an article written by Mark Steyn — a Canadian author who now lives in New Hampshire. The tribunal accepted this posting as evidence that Steyn promoted “hatred”. While the website is never mentioned by name in news reports — referred to only as “a Catholic website” — a source at the tribunal told me, off-the-record, that the website was Catholic Answers.

While the claim is unconfirmed as of this writing, the controversial Mark Steyn article, over which the British Columbia hearing is being held, was posted to the Catholic Answers message forum. Moreoever, popular Jewish-Canadian blogger Ezra Levant, who is blogging live from the hearing, and who is the subject of his own human rights commission complaint, published a description of the unnamed Catholic forum. Several details match, including the screen names of two participants to the Catholic Answers forum discussion of Steyn’s article.”

The message in particular was this:

Father defended the Church’s teaching on marriage during Canada’s same-sex ‘marriage’ debate, quoting extensively from the Bible, the Catechism of the Catholic Church, and Pope John Paul II’s encyclicals. Each of these documents contains official Catholic teaching. And like millions of other people throughout the world and the ages – many of who are non-Catholics and non-Christians — Father believes that marriage is an exclusive union between a man and a woman.

(…) Father de Valk publishes Catholic Insight, a Canadian magazine that “bases itself on the Church’s teaching and applies it to various circumstances in our time.” He is being accused by a homosexual activist of promoting “extreme hatred and contempt” against homosexuals.

Yet following the example of Popes John Paul II and Benedict XV, Father has stated on several occasions that we must love homosexuals and treat them with the dignity due every human person. “The basic view of the Church is that homosexual acts are a sin, but we love the sinner,” Father told me during an interview. “Opposing same-sex marriage is not the same as rejecting homosexuals as persons.” This is the deeply-held belief of orthodox Christians that is now considered a possible hate act warranting state intervention. This is what happens when government agencies broadly define homophobia as opposition to any homosexual act.

Father De Valk, the author of the post, did not make any remark asking homosexuals to be punished, yet the mere different thought/belief from the rest of the people, can constitute in itself a “hate crime”. Is this respect for other people’s beliefs? Is this freedom to belief? Looks like that not, but this is the ultimate goal of Canadian “anti-hate” legislation, according to this book.

But then someone who is continously telling slurs about Jews or declares publicly that “all Jews after they are 18, are legitimate targets because they are not innocent, don’t receive but some words like “don’t be so brute”, while people denouncing that are prosecuted for “Islamophobia”. Of course, those first ones are Muslims, not Christians.
Thanks to Blazing Cat Fur for the tip.

The evangelists say they were threatened with arrest for committing a “hate crime” and were told they risked being beaten up if they returned. The incident will fuel fears that “no-go areas” for Christians are emerging in British towns and cities, as the Rt Rev Michael Nazir-Ali, the Bishop of Rochester, claimed in The Sunday Telegraph this year.

So now there are voices claiming that perhaps they were threatened with arrest because they could possibly being telling Muslims “convert to Christianity or you would die in Hell”. Hey, is that a “hate crime”? Don’t make me laugh!!! But the best is the title: “Where they Christian soldiers?” No, they were Christian jihadis, who were threatening Muslims with “Convert or we will kill you by committing suicide”. These journalists…. what do they take before writing this kind of articles?

This is not Algeria or Saudi Arabia. This is the West. Or not?
********
Exactamente igual que el juicio a Mark Steyn no tendrá mucha cobertura aquí, lo que le ha pasado con un foro católico en Canadá tampoco. La Comisión de Derechos Humanos canadiense no ha dicho qué foro es, simplemente que se trata de “un foro católico”. Pero todos los indicios apuntan a un post que dejó el Padre de Valk y que tampoco tendrá ninguna repercusión. A pesar de que no se tiene confirmación oficial, parece ser -y ha sido confirmado a algunos no oficialmente- que se refiere al foro “Catholic Answers” y en concreto al post del Padre de Valk. Este padre bávaro residente en Canadá, escribió en ese foro de internet “el matrimonio entre homosexuales, para mí, no es matrimonio, que defino sólo como el que tiene lugar entre hombre y mujer”, citando a Juan Pablo II y a Benedicto XVI. Ese comentario se refería a su vez a un artículo de Mark Steyn y los responsable de la Comisión quieren probar que de esa forma Steyn está promoviendo el odio, ahora hacia los homosexuales.
El Padre Valk publica “Catholic Insight”, una revista católica con comentarios sobre la actualidad. En una entrevista declaró, basándose en varias Encíclicas, que “la idea básica sobre la homosexualidad que tiene la Iglesia Católica es que “odiamos el pecado pero queremos al pecador”, de modo que rechazar el matrimonio homosexual no significa rechazar a los homosexuales como personas”.
Pues bien, un activista homosexual le ha acusado de promover “odio extremo y desprecio” por los homosexuales.
De modo que ser católico es un crimen de odio según esta interpretación.
Pero no sólo en Canadá. En Inglaterra, un par de predicadores evangélicos han denunciado a la Policía de las West Midlands, por amenazarles con arrestarles por un delito de odio por distribuir Biblias y propaganda cristiana en una zona musulmana. Ha ocurrido en Birmingham y algún que otro periodista ha dicho que si sólo estaban anunciando el Evangelio, vale, pero que si lo estaban anunciando “amenazando con que si no se convertían, iban a ir al Infierno”, entonces posiblemente sí hizo bien la policía, por portarse como “soldados cristianos”.
Esto no es Argelia ni Arabia Saudí. Esto es Occidente. ¿O no?

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